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poppy
#1 Posted : Tuesday, September 13, 2011 3:35:52 PM Quote
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Hi

Need a bit of advise really,how long does Rituximab take to work?I thought it would start working within 3 months,but have been told two different things at the hospital!One person said 3 months and the other said 6 months.I have been feeling alot worse lately i'm really confused and fed up with it all!Sorry just needed to have a rant.

Poppyxx
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, September 13, 2011 3:42:40 PM Quote
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Hi Poppy

Sorry I can't help you but there are plenty of people on here who can and I am sure will. Just wanted to say I hope you are feeling better soon

Sheila x
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, September 13, 2011 3:54:49 PM Quote
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Hi Polly

Really sad to hear this, but haven't been on Ritux. myself. If no-one comes on to answer you, why not give the NRAS helpline a call and they will put you in touch with a volunteer who has experience of taking it?

Hope you get some answers soon.

Love Jeanxx
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:32:04 PM Quote
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Poppy

I am sorry to hear that the Rituximab is not yet working. Yes it may take six months or longer or may kick in tomorrow. Unfortunately each person is different. I am also told that you can have a flare after starting Rituximab so this may be why you are feeling so poorly.

As Jean says ring the NRAS helpline and someone will be able to help you through this.

Jackie
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:23:42 PM Quote
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Hi Poppy,
I have had 3 cycles of RItuximab. The first one worked within 6 weeks but wore off after 4 months and I had another lot after 6 months.
I went a full year with the next cycle and am 6 months into the 3rd which is wearing off as I had to stop LEflunomide 5 weeks after the retuximab due to liver and skin problems.

Most of the people I see on the ward all agree that you get longer out of each subsequent cycle.

What are you taking alongside the RItuximab?

Roisin
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:34:35 PM Quote
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Hello Poppy

I am waiting to start Rituximab. I was council last week and I was told by my RA nurse
that everyone is different. Some people actually see a benefite almost immediately whilst
others can take up to 5 6 months. Like as mentioned above it seems the more cycle you
have the better the drug works.

I am very nervous starting this . Should I be Poppy ?

Rose
poppy
#7 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:51:17 AM Quote
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Hi Rose,

Don't be to nervous about starting this.You are looked after well and they check you every 20 to30 minutes.The lady having it done at the same time as me had been having it for a couple of years with no problems what so ever.I was there for about 7 hours it does take about 5 to 6 hours for the first infusion its more boring than anything else.I think you just have to go for it you have got nothing to lose!Its like any new drug its the unknown,but i think when its self injecting we are more in control so an infusion is quite daunting.I can totally understand where your coming from.This drug is supposed to be one of the best if it agrees with you.I don't know yet if this will work for me and it did make me feel a bit weird for a while,but it doesn't happen to everyone and they did say it could be that im quite small so it was alot for my body to tolerate.
Good luck and let us know what you decide.

Love Poppyxxx
Belinda
#8 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 1:42:38 PM Quote
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Rose-B wrote:

Hello Poppy

I am waiting to start Rituximab. I was council last week and I was told by my RA nurse
that everyone is different. Some people actually see a benefite almost immediately whilst
others can take up to 5 6 months. Like as mentioned above it seems the more cycle you
have the better the drug works.

I am very nervous starting this . Should I be Poppy ?

Rose


Oh Rose I am totally with you here.

I am due to start Rituximab in the next four weeks and to say I am scared is a huge understatement.

I want to shout out NO I am not taking any more of these drugs.

If there is a side effect I will get it, I am allergic to many many drugs, and develop allergys to thngs that I have normally been fine with. They tell me that is because of the sjogrens Syndrome.

I believe we are damned if we do take the drugs and damned if we dont. Very very scarey. Was told on Monday they are running out of drugs to try me with, and that is scarey.

I had loads of xrays done on monday to see what damage all the inflammation is doing. Back in 2007 they already noticed thinning of my bones so I hate to thing what will show this time. The rheummy told me Ritux cannot repair damage already done, so I may never get out of the wheelchair.

Its such a difficult decision it really is.

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Belinda
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poppy
#9 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:33:49 PM Quote
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Hi Belinda

Im really sorry to hear this,i was pretty scared about taking rituximab too.In hospital it seems they deal with these drugs all the time and think nothing of it!Personally i think i have to go with it because you need them and there help,even though its your body.I must admit this drug made me feel ill whilst i was having the infusion and for several days after.If it does work they intend on giving me some more,i actually don't really know if i want to go through it all again!!I don't want to put anyone off as its not the same for everyone,i just think you should be honest.You have obviously failed alot of the drugs,i have too.

Poppyxx
Belinda
#10 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 4:33:50 PM Quote
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poppy wrote:
Hi Belinda

Im really sorry to hear this,i was pretty scared about taking rituximab too.In hospital it seems they deal with these drugs all the time and think nothing of it!Personally i think i have to go with it because you need them and there help,even though its your body.I must admit this drug made me feel ill whilst i was having the infusion and for several days after.If it does work they intend on giving me some more,i actually don't really know if i want to go through it all again!!I don't want to put anyone off as its not the same for everyone,i just think you should be honest.You have obviously failed alot of the drugs,i have too.

Poppyxx


Thank you, Poppy.

Yes I have failed and am allergic to alot of the other drugs. You wont put anyone off, it is just really really nice to hear other peoples experiences. Also to know that I am not being a baby when I say I am scared.

My sister keeps saying to me you have just got to go on it end of story, but this is someone who wont take certain tablets because they make her mouth really dry. I know for a fact she would never take anything if she knew it would make her sick for two days out of the week. This is what mtx does to me. Amazing how brave people are when they dont have to deal with it.

I dont blame you not wanting to go through it again, we have enough to deal with every day with this damn disease let alone how the meds make us feel.

Enbrel was my miracle drug, I was put on that back in 2005 along side mtx, took a year to kick in but once it did wow... I was out the wheelchair, driving, helping out at my little girls school, I had my life back and I felt like I was living and not just sitting on the side lines. But because I had to come off it for an op in 2008 and could not really get back on it with one infection after the other it stopped working.

They told me they would know within four months of having the two infusions if it was going to work. The not working part is worrying me but not as much as the side effects.

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Belinda
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poppy
#11 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 6:05:19 PM Quote
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Hi Belinda
Sorry its me again,you think you're a baby!I have had RA for 13 years,by the way i'm 41 have 2 daughters aged 16 & 18.It took me 10 years to eventually go to a consultant and take drugs.Even though i had been advised to by GPs.I have got alot of damage and i had a poor quality of life.I was so frightened to go on these drugs because my children were so young.I thought i could handle it on my own tried every natural remedy and changed my diet.I don't feel that good so god knows how id feel without them.
I have had no side effects from rituximab apart from the ones at the beginning.Do you inject MTX?I do and it has stopped the sicky feeling.

Poppyxxx
Belinda
#12 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 6:43:54 PM Quote
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poppy wrote:
Hi Belinda
Sorry its me again,you think you're a baby!I have had RA for 13 years,by the way i'm 41 have 2 daughters aged 16 & 18.It took me 10 years to eventually go to a consultant and take drugs.Even though i had been advised to by GPs.I have got alot of damage and i had a poor quality of life.I was so frightened to go on these drugs because my children were so young.I thought i could handle it on my own tried every natural remedy and changed my diet.I don't feel that good so god knows how id feel without them.
I have had no side effects from rituximab apart from the ones at the beginning.Do you inject MTX?I do and it has stopped the sicky feeling.

Poppyxxx


Hi Poppy,

I do inject MTX , which I do on a tuesday evening, which makes me queasy all night and sicky all wednesday. It is like a sea sickness, call it my sea legs, the sickness comes in waves. With the tablets, well lets just say I saw most of the bathroom for the several days, it was evil. I wish my system was not so sensitive to every thing, it gets boring lol.

I was diagnosed in 2001, so i have had it for ten years..... I was ticking along quite nicely with a one off steriod shot. Sent it in to remission for three years, then I lost my mum in 2003 and the shock of that sent it into overdrive so had no choice, but was on mtx and steriods for two years, but then I developed steriods induced cushings syndrome so had to ween off them and a consultant at another hospital said all I could have was mtx and i would be in the wheelchair for life. Luckily I had already joined here and new there were other drugs I could try, so my doctor sent me to Maidstone Hospital and Dr Hammond there said to me he would get me out of the wheelchair and walking again and boy he did. But of course I am back there now, even worse as the disease is effecting everything, and then I also was diagnosed with the Sjorgrens, which is hell in its own right.

I am 45 and my children are little girl of 13 and little boy of 16 ( not so little lol) they are amazing kids they have seen far too much for kids their age. Its for our kids we keep fighting for, isnt it.

But I just want to shout please no more drugs, because I hate the roller coaster ride with them.

How long ago was your last transfusion of Ritux Poppy ?


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poppy
#13 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 8:05:44 PM Quote
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Hi Belinda,

I don't why im whinging you are definitely having a much harder time than i am.I have alot of trouble with all my joints neck,spine and ribs as well.

I had my first infusion the end of May & second 2 weeks later.The first one i felt a bit weird & when i left i felt like my legs didn't belong to me.I then had headaches,hot flushes in my face and just didn't feel myself.The next one they only gave me half the amount,but still had headache and hot flushing.They had to stop it and take me outside because i went very white in the face.My children & hubby said i looked ill for days after.But if this does work they are going to do it again.The thing is the consultant said it could take up 6 months to work,but the nurse said it takes 3 months and looked shocked when i told him what she had said.The other thing is i never have alot of inflamation in my blood,but i was told they don't go by that.Your sister seems like mine very caring,she thinks they don't know what to do with me,as i have failed quite a few drugs.
I also went into remission for about 3 years,but since then i have never felt the same,it is constantly niggling me.
I really hope that i haven't put you off,as the woman also having rtx at the same time swore by it,she felt fine while having her infusion.

poppyxx
Belinda
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poppy wrote:
Hi Belinda,

I don't why im whinging you are definitely having a much harder time than i am.I have alot of trouble with all my joints neck,spine and ribs as well.

I had my first infusion the end of May & second 2 weeks later.The first one i felt a bit weird & when i left i felt like my legs didn't belong to me.I then had headaches,hot flushes in my face and just didn't feel myself.The next one they only gave me half the amount,but still had headache and hot flushing.They had to stop it and take me outside because i went very white in the face.My children & hubby said i looked ill for days after.But if this does work they are going to do it again.The thing is the consultant said it could take up 6 months to work,but the nurse said it takes 3 months and looked shocked when i told him what she had said.The other thing is i never have alot of inflamation in my blood,but i was told they don't go by that.Your sister seems like mine very caring,she thinks they don't know what to do with me,as i have failed quite a few drugs.
I also went into remission for about 3 years,but since then i have never felt the same,it is constantly niggling me.
I really hope that i haven't put you off,as the woman also having rtx at the same time swore by it,she felt fine while having her infusion.

poppyxx


Poppy you have not put me off. They never tell you what could happen, so I thank you for telling me. I want to know the good and the bad that way I believe you get an even balance. I sometimes think the consultants are too blaze and dont want to tell you the bad.

I dont think I am having a harder time than you hun. RA is horrible and the pain and difficulties it causes all of us is hell.

My specialist said to me that it is a 50/50 whether Ritux will work and there is only two other drugs I can try. She said unfortunately for us sometimes no matter what we throw at RA it does not always work and they do not know why. I do believe though they will keep trying and new drugs will keep coming up. It does not help does it hun when people comment who dont know about the disease, ie like your sister and mine. She said to me tonight, how come when I read up about your RA it says it goes into remission and yours is not now. ERRR let me think oh yeah the meds arnt working haha, that could have something to do with it haha..grrrrr lol

I know the steriods can cause flushing of the face as well, so it could be that combined hun. Do you know if you have R factor in your blood. When I was first diagnosed it was Psoriatic Arthritis and my R factor was negative, then in 2007 my R factor became positive and my disease progressed to Rheumatoid Arthritis. They said to me had my R factor not been positive it would not have been worth me trying ritux. Not sure if I am thankful or not lol...

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poppy
#15 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2011 9:54:59 AM Quote
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Hi Belinda

Hope you're not even more confused about this drug this morning!My consultant told me it was one of the be was one of the best drugs,if you can tolerate it.I have a family friend who has quite a good job in pharmacie and knows about rituximab and she told me alot of people can't tolerate it.But at the hospital they said nobody has ever had a problem with it before.
I do have a very high R factor,my gran had RA in her 40s.Im very lucky my sister worries about me & doesn't know how i put up with the pain.But she has health issues so we are there for each other,especially when you need a good moan.
I have two more options after this drug the new ones out,but i think there is a bit of an issue with funding for them!
When have you got to make a decision?I have had no problem since taking this,try not to worry to much.

Love Poppyxxx

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poppy wrote:
Hi Belinda

Hope you're not even more confused about this drug this morning!My consultant told me it was one of the be was one of the best drugs,if you can tolerate it.I have a family friend who has quite a good job in pharmacie and knows about rituximab and she told me alot of people can't tolerate it.But at the hospital they said nobody has ever had a problem with it before.
I do have a very high R factor,my gran had RA in her 40s.Im very lucky my sister worries about me & doesn't know how i put up with the pain.But she has health issues so we are there for each other,especially when you need a good moan.
I have two more options after this drug the new ones out,but i think there is a bit of an issue with funding for them!
When have you got to make a decision?I have had no problem since taking this,try not to worry to much.

Love Poppyxxx


Morning Poppy

I have until 4 weeks to decide, my mind set this morning is, Go for it, if I start to feel funny whilst having the infusion to 1. dont panic 2. tell them straight away.... oh I sound so brave haha... until the day it happens. I am determined not to let my fear over take the fact this could be the one for me. Its not easy though.

I am glad you have your sister but cannot be easy for you both being unwell. My sister thankfully is very well but the trouble is she believes the doctors can find a cure for every thing, if that makes sense. But when your on the RA rollercoaster ride you realise that they are human and cannot do miracles.

I have every thing crossed for you poppy that ritux will suddenly kick in for you and start doing its job.

There is no RA or any other autoimmune disease in my family at all. So its like how come I am so lucky lol.... I just pray that I dont pass it to my children. I think I would be devastated if I did. I hope they take after their dad with his genes.

Thank you again hun for listening and telling me your experience.

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Just butting in here!! I think you are both amazingly brave ladies. I am terrified of all the drugs too - and I am taking only mtx and hydroxythinggammy. I am sure Jenni will come on with some wise words for you too when she picks up on your posts. I think she has been on a course over the past couple of days so may not be home. Take great care, both of you, and keep posting.

Lots of love
Jeanxxxx

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Thanks Jean that is very kind of you,but i think we all have our challenges.I know Jenni she lives near to me,i actually rang her up for advise.She talks alot of sense.

Belinda no one else in my family has this apart from me.As for our children they have got more chance of having twins.Anyway what is the point in worrying about something that may never happen!Glad you have decided to go for it,you have nothing to loose.

Love Poppyxxx
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jeanb wrote:
Just butting in here!! I think you are both amazingly brave ladies. I am terrified of all the drugs too - and I am taking only mtx and hydroxythinggammy. I am sure Jenni will come on with some wise words for you too when she picks up on your posts. I think she has been on a course over the past couple of days so may not be home. Take great care, both of you, and keep posting.

Lots of love
Jeanxxxx




Awww thank you Jean. Its lovely to know that I am not the only one that is scared of the drugs. Dont get me wrong I dont wish anyone to be scared of them and I wish everyone was not, but I dont feel such a baby knowing it is not just me.

Jenni is amazing and wish I just had half of her courage and gumption.

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Belinda
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Thanks Jean that is very kind of you,but i think we all have our challenges.I know Jenni she lives near to me,i actually rang her up for advise.She talks alot of sense.

Belinda no one else in my family has this apart from me.As for our children they have got more chance of having twins.Anyway what is the point in worrying about something that may never happen!Glad you have decided to go for it,you have nothing to loose.

Love Poppyxxx


"having twins" that made me laugh Poppy....... now that is a great thought for later, loads more cuddles and you can hand them back at night time haha.....


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Belinda
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